iPod shuffle

synching iPod shuffle with podcasts on Catalina

How do I change the order of the podcasts played on my iPod shuffle (that I use for swimming). I tried editing a playlist, but the playlist itself does not seem to be synching on Catalina. Right now the only thing that works is to manually select podcasts through the finder, but then I can't choose order. Podcasts just got much worse for me!

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