OS X El Capitan

Syncing to Mac OS El Capitan

I’m having trouble syncing my iPhone 7 and my iPhone SE (both running iOS 13) to my iMac running El Capitan. When I connect those devices via usb, my iMac says that they need to install a software update, but when I do, iTunes (12.8.2) still doesn’t recognize them. Do I need another iTunes update? A further iOS update? Any thoughts?

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